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  What to do with old publications

  by TonyMorronTheTurd in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  hi guys,.

  it's been a while since i posted here, but i feel like posting again.. it's hard sometimes to find the energy to post here after i expend all my time working a full time job and pretending i care about the wt$ at the same time.. i've been trying to slowly wake my girlfriend up ever since i first posted here, and i must say it is a long waiting game that i am playing right now.

  almost all my efforts are dismissed and i've been slowly losing hope.. anyways, what i meant to really post here today is about old publications.. honestly anything that has to do with the watchtower and jdubs, as of recently makes me feel like vomiting.

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  Anna Marina

  If you have the space and it doesn't bother you I'd keep the literature. Watchtower use certain propaganda tactics but they are not the only ones who use those methods. However they tend to be the most pitifully transparent in the use of those tactics as you only have to hold up what the Bible actually says to see right through them.

  If someone is willing to digitalize it, it may prove useful.

  I have used images of articles in my YouTubes to show that an article exists, remind people of what it looked like and then highlight how Watchtower is using that contrary to the spirit and semantics in the Bible.
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  Buzz words

  by road to nowhere in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i am so sick of hearing ( wife is pimi):.

  critical times so hard to deal with.

  last nano second..... buy out the time.

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  Best buzz word I ever heard was the noise made by the chairman of the judicial committee they had put together for me. I didn't attend the judicial. I just went along to tell them to call it off because what they were doing was wrong.

  I told the chairman I was sticking to what the prophet Daniel said, that the 3rd year of Jehoiakim really was the 3rd year of Jehoiakim and Jesus stuck to what Daniel said too, so was Jesus an apostate? He said."gu gu uh wuh gu uh wuh." Kept on like that for a bit. Not sure if it was one word or fifty.
  

  I expect he'd still make that noise if I asked him again. But they threw me out so I shan't bother.
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  How service is being conducted with the zoom meetings

  by newsheep in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  a friend of ours who is married to a jw said that this morning for service everyone who was on zoom got to do a call while the rest listened in on the call.

  there were thirty-one this morning listening in on one who would call someone to preach to.

  shouldn't the person they are calling on be warned first that there will be so many listening in on their phone call from the zoom meeting.

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  Anna Marina

  Many times I worked with one particular elder. He was kind to me and was very good at the door-to-door ministry. But he never spoke about the Bible. He'd talk about ice creams and blackberries. When I did a door I'd talk about the BIble, so he did all the doors, generally and instructed me on how to eat rosehips or pick up rubber bands that postmen had left to make rubber band balls.
  

  One day, he found me chatting to a return visit. It had taken a lot of work on my part to get her interested in the Bible. So he walks into driveway and immediately commends her on the view from her house and starts talking all about that. Yap, yap, yap. Hardly let me say another word. I couldn't believe he did that.

  Looking back I sometimes wonder if one of the main pulls a householder had was if they lived in a good size home with a few decent antiques in so that if ever there was a house sale of their goods he'd know where the rich pickings were. If so I wonder how such a practice could be adapted to phone calls. "Good morning, thank you for answering your mobile device, I was wondering if you own anything I could make some dosh out of?" Hmm probably needs to be more subtle.
  
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  How service is being conducted with the zoom meetings

  by newsheep in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  a friend of ours who is married to a jw said that this morning for service everyone who was on zoom got to do a call while the rest listened in on the call.

  there were thirty-one this morning listening in on one who would call someone to preach to.

  shouldn't the person they are calling on be warned first that there will be so many listening in on their phone call from the zoom meeting.

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  They recently got asked how they'd feel when the authorities came to assasinate them.

  I'm thinking Wacko Texas. They are being psychologically brutalised with fear while all the time being encouraged to annoy the living daylights out of the public.

  The sad thing is some of them mean so well. Several I know who were brought up as Watchtower publishers profoundly question what their parent's did to them. Their conclusion was that it was not possible for their parents, who deeply loved them, to harm them willfully. Therefore their parents had been hoodwinked.
  
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  How service is being conducted with the zoom meetings

  by newsheep in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  a friend of ours who is married to a jw said that this morning for service everyone who was on zoom got to do a call while the rest listened in on the call.

  there were thirty-one this morning listening in on one who would call someone to preach to.

  shouldn't the person they are calling on be warned first that there will be so many listening in on their phone call from the zoom meeting.

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  Anna Marina

  Perhaps the publisher doing the call could open up by saying, "please be aware that this call is being used for training purposes."

  I'd suggest the householder should reply that their time costs £100 trillion per nano second and please could they have the names and addresses of both caller and all publishers listening in, together with their email, mobile phone number and bank account details. By continuing the call it wil be assumed all of them agree to these terms and conditions.

  Payment will be taken in advanance so would they mind telling you how long the call will last.
  
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  Religious Affiliation

  by Anna Marina in

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  2. beliefs

  uk court case - does anyone know if there are actual court cases docs online to do with a may 12th news item on the watchtower's official website?.

  the news item says that the court of appeal of england and wales dismissed an application to appeal a decision of the high court upholding the watchtower's right to follow bible directives regarding disfellowshipping.. it's proving difficult to find online docs about this..

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  Thank you both - much appreciated.
  
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  Religious Affiliation

  by Anna Marina in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  uk court case - does anyone know if there are actual court cases docs online to do with a may 12th news item on the watchtower's official website?.

  the news item says that the court of appeal of england and wales dismissed an application to appeal a decision of the high court upholding the watchtower's right to follow bible directives regarding disfellowshipping.. it's proving difficult to find online docs about this..

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  UK court case - does anyone know if there are actual court cases docs online to do with a May 12th News item on the Watchtower's official website?

  The news item says that the Court of Appeal of England and Wales dismissed an application to appeal a decision of the High Court upholding the Watchtower's right to follow Bible directives regarding disfellowshipping.

  It's proving difficult to find online docs about this.
  
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  Cardinal George Pell Acquitted Of Child sex Abuse !

  by smiddy3 in

  1. watchtower
  2. child-abuse

  cardinal george pell the australian catholic who was the 3rd most senior person in the vatican was acquitted by the high court of australia of all sex charges against him this morning.. after serving about 400 days behind bars he is now free to walk out of jail, to the shock of many.. this should make news headlines all around the world judging by past experience..

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  Anna Marina

  Bad stuff happens - people have the news reported to them, they are shocked. It gets dealt with but not really dealt with properly.

  Same bad stuff happens again - people have the news reported to them, they are not as shocked. After this has happened enough times, people become jaded and there is little resistance to the unthinkable being legalised. It has been going on for years and Andy Warhol painted the idea.

  https://www.artspace.com/andy_warhol/electric-chair-complete-portfolio-1
  

  I believe it is called Shock Tactics.

  Likely it is one of tools in the box of tricks of the Fabians, who's old coat of arms was a wolf in sheeps clothing. But that blew their cover, so they changed it.

  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fabian_Society#/media/File:Fabian_Society_coat_of_arms.svg

  No they didn't change it to the JW logo - but give 'em time. You never know.
  
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  Zoom and JW.org working together.

  by skin in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  who is hosting who here?.

  https://jworg.zoom.us/.

  our kh zoom meeting invites are now coming in from jw.org, but are still hosted by the local elders.

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  Time for anyone with half an ounce of common sense to get out now.
  
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  Weekly Meeting Importance Being Reduced - Your Thoughts?

  by JWTom in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i am pimo, but now have 40+ years of being a jw as i was raised in a 3rd generation family of witnesses and continue to fake my way through things - fading as i can.. for the vast majority of my time as a jw, the meetings were the central focus for all jws to get teaching, association, information and so on.

  nothing was more important than being at the meetings!

  over the last 20 years starting with the elimination of the weekly book study in homes and continuing down to today - my opinion is that the value/purpose of the weekly meetings continues to be diluted or minimized.

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  Anna Marina

  Regarding when the Group Study Arrangement stopped -

  I noticed that it coincided with instructions to not use 1st names, even within the Group Study. They were stamping on natural human relations. To not use someone's name is cold and distancing. The apostles did not refer to each other as 'Brother + surname'. The term brothers is used as a collective term in the Bible and maybe as an affectionate term but not as a general replacement for a name.

  Also around this time, they stopped speakers bringing the love from the congregation they came from or had visited. The love was only to come from top down. It wasn't to go sideways.

  All this reminded me of Gestalt Humanistic Psychology - teaching people to live without love, within a cold set of relationships based on contract and money (ie the corporate environment).

  Given it is pretty clear they are nothing but a media and property developing company posing as both a charity and religion, the practice of Gestalt Humanistic Psychology instead of Jesus' teachings seems to be their direction of travel.